And I remember when we first got on the phone, you said, Kim, you said, what did you say?

It's something like, okay, do you want to like scale your business and have coaches or do you

want to be in the trenches of all of it? Because we're really only going to be able to help you

with the first part. And I was like, okay, no, I want to do the first part.'t imagine it being any other way right now. So yeah, in the beginning,

it was hard because as you often talk about, well, you know, I don't want to give up the control.

I'm better than my coaches. No one's going to coach like I am. But when you coach your coaches and you hire really good people, it's awesome when you have people who are really freaking smart

and really good at what they do. And you have to

put your ego aside and allow them to show up very effectively for the client and know that actually,

yeah, they're actually doing a much better job than I am because I'm not burned out. And I haven't

just talked to 20 other people today. All right. What's up FitViz podcast? I am excited today here with a guest, Kim Schaper. So Kim is the owner and CEO and creator of the metabolic method. What she does is she helps women over 35 optimize their hormones, drop body fat, or I'm sorry, optimize their metabolism and drop body fat and balance their hormones.

Kim is also a longtime friend, a student in IFCA, and she's probably the funniest person I know.

So I hope in some way that you can insights to this podcast and you say some inappropriate

shit because I just, I need our audience to get to know you a little bit.

But we're going to talk today through really how Kim has had a lot of success in her business doing two major things that we'll touch on.

We'll go like overall, whole strategy, what she's done over the last year.

And I'm excited about it.

Kim, thanks so much for being here with me.

Thanks so much for getting me on here and allowing me to be on your podcast and share all the good

nuggets I've learned from you guys. So thank you. Yeah. So I think what we'll do is, you know,

I was messaging you before this and I shared the first scaling strategy that we ever did. So

for context, what we do with students like Kim. So Kim came to us in a pretty solid

position already. You're doing about probably consistent 20K average before. Like not even,

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