#366 Bethel Exposed: What Should Christians Do Now? | Naomi Wright

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Alisa Childers

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

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🗓️ 29 March 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

What happens when the leaders you trusted are exposed—and the system you believed in starts to collapse?

In this episode, I sit down with Naomi Wright, founder of Be Emboldened, to walk through the real fallout of spiritual abuse, cover-up culture, and false authority in the church. Naomi shares her firsthand experience growing up in a cult, escaping it, and rebuilding her understanding of God, truth, and Scripture from the ground up.

We also address the growing controversy surrounding Bethel and the broader New Apostolic Reformation movement—where recent exposures have raised serious questions about prophecy, leadership, and accountability in the church.

We dig into the broader implications of these revelations, including patterns of manipulation, fake prophecy, and the protection of abusers. More importantly, we answer the question many are asking right now: What next?

This conversation tackles:

How to recognize spiritual abuse and high-control leadership

Why people stay—and why leaving is so difficult

The psychological and theological aftermath of deception

How to rebuild discernment and trust in Scripture

Practical steps for individuals and churches moving forward

If you’re processing disillusionment, questioning what you’ve been taught, or trying to help others navigate the aftermath—this episode provides clarity, categories, and a path forward grounded in truth.

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0:00.0	The way I say it with my board is, if I'm going to go rogue, I want you all to catch it,
0:03.9	and I want you to remove me before I hurt anyone.
0:06.3	Leave that to me and let Jesus deal with me, get rid of me.
0:09.9	Don't let me harm people.
0:27.8	Hey, everyone. I'm excited to bring you this conversation today with Naomi Wright, who runs a ministry called Be Emboldened.
0:36.2	You can check them out at beemboldened.com, and they exist ultimately to walk people through the healing process after spiritual abuse.
0:39.4	Naomi on the show today shares her story of growing up in a cult and how she escaped that cult and how the Lord worked a lot of healing
0:45.9	in her life and how he uses her in the lives of others who have been through similar
0:50.9	situations and maybe even some that aren't even as extreme as surviving
0:54.4	a cult, but cult-like environments that are so often found in our culture today that focuses so
1:01.4	much on personality and platform and things like that. So I love Naomi's work. I love that she
1:07.2	does everything she can to keep it biblical. But we're going to talk mostly today
1:12.5	about the fallout from all of the things that are being exposed about Bill Johnson, Chris Vallaton,
1:18.2	everybody around Bethel cover-up culture, as Mike Winger calls it. Many of you have been
1:22.8	following that. If you haven't been following that, Mike Winger has been doing some amazing work to expose some very
1:28.6	real corruption in the church as it relates to the more hyper-charismatic new apostolic
1:35.1	reformation wing of the church, who there's just been a lot come out where prophets were data
1:42.1	mining on social media and then passing that office prophecy,
1:46.1	sexual predators, and ultimately Bethel and others covering for those leaders.
1:52.0	And so I want to refer you to Mike's work if you're unaware of what's been going on with all of that.
1:57.9	But today we're going to be talking specifically like, what do we do now?
2:02.0	I know that there are a lot of people that are impacted by this, people who have followed Bethel
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