#367 Inside the Occult: Ritual Magick, the Golden Dawn, and the Way Out | Jac Marino

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Alisa Childers

Christianity, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 5 April 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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In this episode, Alisa sits down with Jac Marino, a former self-described sorceress involved in ritual magick to explore her journey out of the New Age and occult. Jac shares how subtle ideas like manifestation, “Christ consciousness,” and spiritual autonomy drew her in long before she recognized the danger.

This conversation goes beyond surface-level warnings. Jac explains how she was lured into the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and how the occult often disguises itself as harmless—or even “spiritual." She explains why so many people, including those raised in the church, are being pulled toward these deceptions today. From the promise of control and identity to the blending of Jesus into New Age frameworks, she unpacks the core beliefs that make these systems so appealing—and so deceptive.

You’ll also hear practical insight for parents and Christians navigating a culture where these ideas are no longer fringe, but trending. If you’ve ever wondered why practices like manifestation, crystals, or tarot feel so normalized—or how to discern truth from counterfeit spirituality—this episode provides clarity.

Jac’s new book, Insnared: Overcoming the Darkness of the New Age and Occult with the Light of God’s Truth, releases July 7. Pre-order today: https://a.co/d/09SWMGdH

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0:00.0	you know, Jesus isn't someone you have to submit to. He's not the Lord of your life. You don't
0:04.0	have to follow the authority of the Bible. You are your own authority, and Jesus is how, just to
0:09.9	show you how to live or in the occult to show you how to attain union with the divine.
0:31.4	Hey, friends. Hey friends, I have an incredibly powerful and encouraging conversation for you today with my friend Jack Marino.
0:39.3	I've been aware of Jack's story for several years. In fact, she's come on the podcast in the past to share her story of coming out of drug addiction, alcohol addiction. She was deeply ensnared by the occult and new age.
0:45.5	She was actually a self-professed sorceress who practiced ritual magic. She shared that
0:50.9	story on the podcast before, and today's episode is all about her new book.
0:54.8	I'm so excited about this book coming out. I'm going to tell you about that in a second,
0:58.3	but I want to let you know that today's episode is brought to you by our friends at WeHeart Nutrition.
1:03.7	Brand new sponsor today. So excited to tell you more about them in a little bit, but you can go to
1:09.3	weheartnutrition.com and use the code Elisa for 20%
1:13.1	off your first purchase. Okay, guys, this conversation with Jack was so practical. We shared a
1:19.6	little bit of her story, but actually dug deeper into the details of what she came out of. More
1:23.7	specifically, it was called the Order of the Golden Dawn. Now, that might sound out there.
1:28.1	That might sound like something that none of us would be vulnerable to. But she really shares
1:32.6	how she was ensnared into these things, what drew her in, what lured her, what began even
1:37.7	luring her as a very young girl. And then she's got some really practical advice for parents
1:42.1	about how we can help our kids avoid some of
1:45.0	these pitfalls. Her book is called Ensnared Overcoming the Darkness of the New Age and Occult
1:51.3	with the Light of God's Truth. That is coming out on July 7th. I really want to encourage you
1:56.5	to pre-order this book wherever books are sold. I've told you this before on the podcast, but when you pre-order a book, it signals the retailers that, oh, people are interested in this. We need to order more of it. And then they maybe even can print more and make sure that everybody has enough to go around. Really want you to pre-order this book. I can't wait to read it. Again, it's called Ensnared Overcoming the Darkness of the New Age and Occult with the Light of God's Truth.
2:21.2	We'll put a link to where you can pre-order that in the show notes for today's episode. And here is
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