Hi everybody, it's Helen from the Squiggly Careers podcast. And before today's episode starts,

I want to let you know about some news that Sarah and I are really excited about.

Ten years ago in October was the moment that Squiggly started. We sat down together as squiggle was

drawn on a napkin and this idea to help people with their careers came to life.

Since then, things have grown

a bit and we would love to celebrate that growth with you. On October the 17th, we will be holding

Squiggly Careers Live in London. The show starts at 7pm. We've got four brilliant guests who are

going to be talking to us about meaning, motivation and money. Come and join us. Tickets are limited.

They are £30 each and there'll be a chance to connect and talk to each other after the event as

well. All the details are on our website, amazingif.com forward slash squiggly. That's amazingif.com

forward slash squiggly. So we hope to see you there. And now let's get on with today's

episode. Hi, I'm Helen from the Squiggly Careers podcast. This is a weekly podcast where we talk

about the ins, outs, ups and downs of work to give you a little bit more clarity, some

controls, some tools to support your self-development.

And ordinarily, I say we, because it's normally me talking to Sarah about all things,

squiggly careers. But this episode is one of our Ask the Expert episodes. And today's topic

is sensitivity. I am talking to Jen Granaman on the episode today, who is the co-author

of a book called Sensitive,

is a book that I got gifted, oh, about four months ago now, and I absolutely loved it. I've got

post-it notes all over this book, so I was like, oh, that's really interesting, and there's ways

that you can self-assess for sensitivity in the book, there's ways that you can create

environments where sensitive people can thrive at work in the book. And that is what

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