Hi everybody, it's Helen from the Squiggly Careers podcast. And before today's episode starts,

I want to let you know about some news that Sarah and I are really excited about.

Ten years ago in October was the moment that Squiggly started. We sat down together as squiggle was

drawn on a napkin and this idea to help people with their careers came to life. Since then, things have grown a bit

and we would love to celebrate that growth with you. On October the 17th, we will be holding

Squiggly Careers Live in London. The show starts at 7pm. We've got four brilliant guests who are

going to be talking to us about meaning, motivation and money. Come and join us. Tickets are limited.

They are £30 each and there'll be a chance to connect and talk to each other after the event

as well. All the details are on our website, amazingif.com forward slash squiggly. That's amazingif.com

forward slash squiggly. So we hope to see you you there and now let's get on with today's

episode. Hi I'm Sarah and I'm Helen and this is the squiggly careers podcast where every week we

share some ideas and some actions that we hope will help you to navigate that squiggly career

with a bit more confidence and control and one of the ways we try to give you a bit more control is we take our episodes and we turn

it into podsheets. These are practical tools to help you to take action. You can get them on

our website, amazing if.com, and it's linked in the show notes as well. And in addition to that,

if you would like a bit more squiggly support with the topics we talk about, you can always join us at Pub Plus. We host a free 30 minute session every Thursday morning. So it's nine o'clock UK time. You'll have to translate that into whatever time zone you're in. But it's always free. It's a brilliant community of people and you get the opportunity to sort of ask questions. We bring to lives and the models that we talk about.

I think it just gives people a bit of a boost who happen to learning about their career.

So if that is you, you might want to come along.

And like I said, all the info for that is on amazingif.com or just email us.

We're Helen and Sarah at squiggly careers.com.

And so this week we're talking about how to lose ladder-like language.

So why are we taking on this topic?

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