Hey everyone, Vancouver Radio, episode number 361 and I am pumped for today's show.

Right, last week, last week I did a podcast with Tom and we had a little debate. We talked about energy drinks, we talked about

shit government policy, we talked about societal behavior, like the conversation when it comes to something as simple as an energy

drink and banning kids from habit starts to bring in so many different topics.

It's like it's hard to stay away from all those different things because there's so many layers of context.

Anyway, someone I've become to admire, through the work that he does.

Cameron Parker is joining me on the show today.

He has been a fan of the podcast and he reached out to me.

He said, Ben, mate, just listen to your any drinks podcast.

Mea, I'm triggered like I've got so much that I want to input on this show and I've never had camera on the

podcast and I've always thought like what's the angle there?

Love his work.

How can we get him on?

Well, this is the day that we get him on.

I'm really excited about having the conversation.

I won't tell you what he does because I don't want to spoil his opportunity to

Really do what he does justice because I love what he does Cameron welcome to the show

Thank you. Thank you. What And as I was just saying before this

podcast started, I literally remember being a fan of your work, I still am, but I

remember literally about three years ago before I went completely

self-employed with my speaking I remember I was working at a university in Bristol and

I was literally going around hating my life room checking make sure the kind of the

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