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Spirit Gym with Paul Chek

353 — Why Caffeine Before Meditation Might Be the Secret to Clarity With Simon Cheng

Spirit Gym with Paul Chek

Paul Chek

Religion & Spirituality, Wellness, Society & Culture, Plant Medicine, Relationships, Alternative Health, Metaphysics, Philosophy, Paul Chek, Spirituality, Sexuality, Holistic Health, Health & Fitness, Personal Development

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 141 minutes

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Summary

Over his long career as a practitioner and therapist, Paul has taken such great care in honing and fine-tuning his daily practices that for him to consider changing them is pretty rare. That is, until Simon Cheng, the founder and CEO of Pique Life, put a thought into Paul’s brain in their first podcast conversation more than five years ago about using black teas to support his early morning meditation practice. Discover what Paul learned from Simon that changed his meditation practice for goo...

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0:00.0

Welcome to Spirit Jim. What if the real medicine isn't in a pill or a diagnosis, but in a cup of tea, a silent forest or a question whispered to your soul?

0:13.9

In today's conversation, Paul is joined once again by Simon Cheng, founder and CEO of Peak Tea, a practitioner of Taoist internal alchemy,

0:24.4

and a man whose journey through spiritual practice, deep meditation and even business breakdowns

0:31.3

has led him to profound transformation. From surviving a botched surgery that nearly ended everything to discovering a deeper

0:39.7

spiritual calling through ancient Chinese wisdom, Simon shares how pain, nature and mystery became his

0:47.3

greatest teachers and helped him build a thriving life and business. Paul and Simon dive into the

0:53.8

science and spirit of tea, how tea can be a

0:57.3

spiritual tool, not just a beverage, and why sometimes the worst things that happen to us

1:03.1

become the keys to our freedom. So grab a cup of tea, slow down, breathe deep and get ready to enjoy this episode with Paul and Simon.

1:13.6

Before we dive in, we'd like to say thank you for listening, as this podcast would not be possible

1:19.2

without you, our subscribers and followers. We'd also like to thank our premier sponsors, Organify

1:25.9

by Optimizers, Paleo Valley and wild pastures, and our two new sponsors,

1:32.8

peak and correct life. You'll hear the special offers and discounts from them throughout this

1:38.3

episode, or you can visit the show notes page at Paulcheck.com forward slash slash podcast and if you want to explore the deeper levels

1:47.0

of connection and conversation available in paul's spirit gym membership go to myspiritjim.com

1:54.2

for details well hello everybody as you heard from penny's introduction i have my have my buddy Simon Chang back to see me for the first time in about five years. So it's amazing to have him back on the podcast. And Simon's really into Taoism and many other spiritual practices. So we're going to talk about life, kids, spiritual practices, our own

2:19.9

ways of evolving, and probably about some of his amazing teas and products. Simon's peak

2:27.8

teas are my favorite. They're amazing and everybody I've ever turned them on to loves them.

2:33.8

So Simon, welcome back.

2:35.5

It's great to see you.

2:36.5

Your first trip to the Rainbow House.

2:39.0

So good to be here, Paul.

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