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So, were you, you mentioned evergreen workbooks? Some of my listeners may or may not know that

the evergreen story side of things, yeah.

Is the church's unofficially endorsed support group?

Supported, yeah, I would say.

For, I've been told that they're financially supported by the church.

Oh. From a pretty reliable source, at least partly.

Yeah. But it's sort of a, it's a support group that...

I think it's so as an arthritis.

I mean, yeah. But, but in theory, what I understand is that it's sort of like if you're gay and if you're

Mormon, you want to try and marry a woman and make it work, if you're male.

You want to change your sexual identity?

Yeah. It's very, it's very based on change.

They can, what do they provide? Tell us about whatever...

They provide workbooks?

Did you go to evergreen? Did you like...

I never would show my face at a conference because I was also that famous Mormon.

So you were closeted?

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