As we are trying to grow and develop, we are in one way increasing our intellectual understanding of ourselves and our path and the world.

But also it's very important at the same time to increase our emotional intelligence about ourselves and our world and so forth.

And one of the interesting, I think, markers of that,

because I think emotional intelligence can be a bit difficult for people to

gauge sometimes, you know, and it's talked about somewhat,

but it's not super popular in terms of what's out there in media.

But ultimately, it's a level of maturity and understanding, but it also has to do with empathy with patience and I think at a deeper level with

understanding the human condition in a rather intimate type of way you know've said it before, it's like,

if you come to listen to podcasts on this type of stuff,

if you read books on this type of stuff,

if you seek meditation, whatever it may be,

you're not doing it because you feel great probably.

You're doing it in, hey, if there's some person that's like happy, trauma-free,

you know, never had any issues and just as a seeker just for fun than more power to them,

but generally someone is going to find tools to improve their life because they've been

through some stuff, you know, and they've been through some pain, they've been through

some suffering, they've been dealt some unfair blows and whatnot, and they, and those can

be physical, emotional, whatever, but they're trying to kind of figure out how to not feel the fallout from that, how to heal from that, how to, you know, live a better life and then, and so forth.

And what that does, what's interesting to me is that I find that those people, you know,

I definitely consider myself one of those people, is like, it makes you more sensitive

going through those types of hard times, you know, having that type of suffering.

It makes you sensitive because times, you know, having that type of suffering.

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