Hi, I'm Natalie Jill and I help women in their 40s, 50s, and beyond redefine, rebrand, and laugh

with aging. Welcome to midlife conversations. On this podcast, I do what I do best, taking complicated

information that is relevant in this point of our lives now and break it down simply with

actionable steps you can implement

to level up your life. I also regularly interview some of the most inspiring people living

their best midlife years now. On this show, I cover topics about our shifting hormones,

weight struggles, our mood and focus changes, raising teenagers, our relationships, career changes, beauty, and more.

If you are new here, I encourage you go back and listen from episode one when this podcast was

previously called Listen Up for the full transformative experience.

This deep dive conversation, we're going to be talking about a very interesting topic here.

We're going to be talking about dealing with, raising, taking care of elderly parents,

which is a really hot topic in our generation, especially with midlife.

Right now, a lot of us are navigating that.

And if we're not yet, we might be soon.

I've got Chavon Sarno here. Now, she is actually an author. She is very well known in the gut healing space. She wrote a book healing Cibo. Am I pronouncing that right? Cibo. Yeah, you got it. We could do a whole topic around this. She is a go-to expert when it comes to gut health and food poisoning, all the things that are happening internally there. But that is not what we're going to talk about today. But you might want to follow her and read her book on those topics because she's an expert there. I wanted to talk to her about this very specific topic because she is right in the thick of it. And this is a hot topic with midlife. We don't have enough resources on how to handle it. So thanks so much for jumping

into this deep dive conversation with me, Shavon. Oh, my pleasure. I, you know, usually was planning on talking about gut, but then when I saw the list of interests, I was like, wait a minute. Yeah. This is important and not enough people are talking about it to your point. So they are not. They're not. Hi, I am Shavon Sarnah, and I was a TV host for 24 years as well on Home Shopping Network, but we were cool, so it's HSN. So I have a lot of experience with another generation as well. My cat's going to walk by. You're going to see your tail in just about two seconds. There you go.

So here's a little bit of background of why this is actually relevant. And not everyone's going to have the situation, but we all are going to have aging parents unless they are deceased.

Okay, pretty much. So I was born when my father was 69 years old. I'll show you a picture of him.

Oh, my goodness. I didn't know this,

Chavon, 16. There he is. Yep. He was from India. My mom was 30 years his junior. She was from

upstate New York. They met in New York City. Where else could these two people, he was from

India. She was from upstate New York. They met in New York City. And he wanted to hire her. This was back in the 50s. He wouldn't pay her enough. So she didn't go to work for him. But he did start to court her. And lo and behold, they ended up getting married. And it was a beautiful story. He took her around the world and just opened up the whole world to her. She was very savvy and very sophisticated

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