Hello, hello, hello, this is Owen Jones, welcome to the podcast, Clive Lewis.

Now he's an old palamine, he's also the Labour MP for Noise South, he's very much on the

party's left, but he's of a left which is very free thinking if you like, and I want

to talk to him and this was a few weeks ago, it's still very relevant, about the state

of the Labour Left, about the state of the Labour Party, about Jeremy Corbyn, and about British

politics, about a progressive alliance, that's his big thing by the way, about how we get rid

of the Tories, about electoral reform, we talk about a lot of stuff, now a bit housekeeping

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Hi, hello, how you doing?

Hi, Owen and Keir.

Rickman, that Keir's over there, you've missed, you've missed, you've got the one,

that's Rickman, I'm sorry, we're on Keir's deal, we've got the place, oh, there we go,

so these cats are like part of the ambiance of the interview I take.

It seems that way, they certainly keen to get involved on that, I just shut the door,

look outside, can they survive outside? I mean are they like,

I mean, okay, look, this is the most champagne sort of thing, obviously I've got to say,

but they are Burmese cats, and the reason we've got Burmese cats is because they're like dogs.

Oh yeah, they are, yeah, I've met them. Yeah, you have, you haven't met them,

but they can't be, you can't let them outside because they have no survival skills.

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