Hello, Owen Jones here. Welcome to the podcast.

Is this Keir Starmer's worst nightmare?

Sean Berry is the very eloquent leader, co-leader of the Green Party, who are creeping up in

the polls. And the evidence suggests that not only some Labour members but some Labour

voters are currently looking at the Labour Party and saying, nah, I'm alright, thanks. I'm

giving the Greens a go instead. Attracted by their stance on the climate emergency and

very progressive policies, that time when Labour's political positioning is, if I'm going

to be honest, not as clear as it could be. So, I want to talk to her about how much of

a threat the Greens do pose to Labour, about their policies, about their position on things

like trade unions, for example, about what she thinks about Keir Starmer and Labour. And

we talk about things like the climate emergency. We talk about a lot of stuff. Now, a little

bit of housekeeping. We're building this podcast to try and offer a bit of a balance to

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Hello, Barry. Hello, hello, hello. Hello. I like the way you did that. It was almost like

I'd interrupted you. You were like, oh, hi there. You know, like in those, those

can try. I did very slightly, just check my printer one last time, wasn't standing.

Hi. Hello. Hi there. If you've just joined us, do you like the fact that I've come dressed

in Green Party for those who are listening to the podcast, I'm wearing a green, I'm

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