Porn Free Radio, Episode 3.30.

Hey, this is Matt, and we're celebrating 10 years of porn free radio over the next 10 episodes.

Episode 335 will be released on our 10th anniversary,

April 30th, 2024. If you have a story about hope and action you took from the podcast,

send me an email at Matt at Recoveredman.com. I'll be reading your letters on that show.

Well, on today's show, we are continuing.

Our choice is yours series.

And today we're talking about recovery versus relapse. And I'm welcoming in my friend and fellow coach, Vern Tomke, to sit in on this topic. How are you doing today, Vern? Good. We're moving

into spring up in Canada and looking forward to this podcast, Matt.

Well, I thought we were moving into spring and to Chicago and then it was 29 degrees today.

So it's like, what on earth?

I mean, I got my shorts and sandals all ready to go and it's still jacket and glove weather.

And then your lawn care guy shows up to do your lawn in the coldest day.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I mean, he's cutting the lawn.

I think there's frost on the lawn.

I mean, what, what, nothing's growing.

So, uh, we're going to talk about the choice between recovery and relapse.

And you might be thinking, Matt, well, there's not much of a choice there.

I want recovery, except to stay in a recovered state, it involves active work.

And, you know, I love the old adage, you know, you're either working on recovery or

you're working on relapse. And a lot of guys who I talk to are working on relapse on a regular

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