Hi, I'm Helen and I'm Sarah and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast, a weekly podcast where we

dive into the ins and outs and ups and downs of careers and share some ideas for action,

some tools for you to try out so you can hopefully have a bit more confidence, clarity and

control over your career development.

And every one of our episodes is supported with lots of resources to help you take action.

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We're Helen and Sarah at squiggly careers.com.

And so today we're talking about how to turn hard moments into helpful learning.

And I suspect if you ever wondered whether we sometimes get podcast topics from what's happening in our weeks, this is a really good clue.

I think you could probably just listen every week of the year and just be like, what's going on in Sarah and Helen's world? What's for happening behind the squiggly

scenes this week? And you would know because we would be like, oh, this has been hard. There must be

a podcast topic in there. And it turns out after a bit of research and discussion, there

absolutely is. So what do we mean by hard moments? Because actually,

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