323: Matrescence: Navigating the Journey to Motherhood with Seed Mother Co-Founders
Conversations with Cam
Cameron Oaks Rogers
4.7 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 17 September 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with Victoria Trinko and Julia Sarewitz, co-founders of Seed Mother, to explore the transformative journey of matrescence - the developmental transition to motherhood. We discuss the emotional rollercoaster of becoming a mother, including the often-overlooked aspects of grief and identity changes. Victoria and Julia share their findings from studying under leading matrescence researcher Dr. Athan and their peer-reviewed study on how matrescence education can support maternal well-being. We also talk about the crucial role of support systems and how to navigate relationships during this pivotal time.
Key Takeaway / Points:
- What is matrescence and why is it important?
- How does grief play a role in the transition to motherhood?
- What brain changes occur during pregnancy and postpartum?
- How can mothers build and maintain effective support systems?
- What are the cultural expectations vs. realities of motherhood?
- How can partners support each other through matrescence?
- What role do grandparents play in the matrescence journey?
- How can mothers trust their instincts in parenting?
- What societal changes are needed to better support new mothers?
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a Dear Media production. |
| 0:04.0 | Welcome back to Conversations with Cam. |
| 0:06.0 | This episode is focused on the topic of matressants, which if you are not familiar with |
| 0:11.7 | that term, you are about to be, but it is the transition into motherhood. |
| 0:16.3 | And I know we've done an episode on it before, and this one dives a little bit deeper into that |
| 0:22.4 | transformation. |
| 0:23.6 | And I mean, we cover everything under the sun around metressants. |
| 0:27.8 | And I want to give a little bit of an intro about our two guests today, just so you know, |
| 0:33.1 | like why they're actually informed to speak on this topic. |
| 0:36.1 | Today we are joined by Victoria Trunk and |
| 0:38.9 | Julia Sarowitz, co-founders of Seed Mother. Seed Mother believes in Metrescent's education for all |
| 0:45.0 | mothers. And the co-founders, Julia and Victoria, both hold an MA from Teachers College, Columbia University, |
| 0:51.0 | where they trained under leading Matressonens researcher Dr. Ethan. And during their |
| 0:55.8 | time there, they designed and co-authored a peer-reviewed study on how metrescence education can |
| 1:00.4 | support maternal well-being. In this episode, we dive into a deeper discussion around specifically |
| 1:07.5 | the topic of metrescence and what metressens is and how to move through it and |
| 1:12.5 | what it looks like and how it differs for many people and how to best support yourself through |
| 1:16.2 | it and how to best support your partner through it and how to prepare for it. Like we really |
| 1:19.9 | get into the nitty gritty of matressens and I think this episode will be so beneficial for so many people. And also in this conversation, |
| 1:29.9 | we discuss the importance of community and support and even mention a statistic from the Peanut |
| 1:35.4 | app. And I'm excited to share that I'm involved in the postpartum self-care club over on the peanut |
| 1:40.3 | app, which is the world's first online community for women to meet, find support, |
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