This is Jockel Podcast number 322 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Good evening, echo.

Good evening.

Find a new mission.

That right there is some advice that I have given a bunch of guys, a bunch of veterans

over the last decade because when you leave the military, that mission that you've been

on, this honorable mission, all of a sudden overnight, it's gone.

And that's going to leave a hole.

And the longer you serve, the bigger that hole is going to be.

And for some of us, if the only thing you ever really want to do was serve and execute

that mission, it can be a rough transition, especially after you spend 20 plus years with

the opportunity to do what you always wanted to do to wear the cloth of a nation to take

the fight to the enemy.

And it's an honor to have had the opportunity to do that.

To work with a bunch of other people that are also dedicated to one thing in life.

And that is executing the mission.

So once that's gone, like I said, it can be a rough transition and you have to find a new

mission.

And some veterans go into business, some of them focus on their family, some of them start

nonprofits, those are the positive things you can do.

Some serve in other ways.

And some just seem to keep going and keep getting after it and keep moving forward with

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