316 - DC Schindler - The Duality of Art (Climbing Mt Sophia)
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
4.8 • 824 Ratings
🗓️ 16 November 2023
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Original: Climbing Mt. Sophia - Beauty, Art and Freedom with Jonathan Pageau and DC Schindler: https://youtu.be/pIikYtFS4Q8?si=SlFG5MR0ZtbmcL9I
Jonathan’s video on contemporary art: The Search for Participation in Contemporary Art: https://youtu.be/EWc7TKm9jho?si=WuwCjk3Tb3Zdkpmg
David and Ken’s series on Freedom from Reality: Part 1; Good, Functionality and Unease with DC Schindler: https://youtu.be/kSoCVbcmXfg?si=qkmNLSc2J7DLcDQA
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| 0:00.0 | True beauty sort of seduces you toward the good. It pulls you deeper into reality. But then there's this, |
| 0:08.0 | in these more pornographied forms, the seduction of the art becomes a pull into the abstract. |
| 0:14.9 | In the scripture, technique, art, applied science, and not just in the Bible, but also in kind of Greek mythology and ancient |
| 0:22.5 | thinking, it's always a dual thing. It's not clean. There's a healthy suspicion towards it, |
| 0:28.5 | because, and if you look at how Plato was like, you know, get rid of those artists, |
| 0:32.3 | because they can make you think something's beautiful even if it's not, right? They're tricksters. |
| 0:36.3 | They can become propagandists. And in scripture, you can see that applied arts are from Cain, |
| 0:43.0 | and they bring about the flood. So there's this very dark aspect of what they can bring, |
| 0:49.3 | but then God is constantly saving that which has fallen. |
| 1:06.0 | Music and God is constantly saving that which has fallen. This is Jonathan Peugeot. |
| 1:07.0 | Welcome to the symbolic world. |
| 1:22.2 | Hello and welcome to Mount Sophia. |
| 1:26.9 | I'm excited today to be here with Jonathan Pajou and David Schindler again. |
| 1:28.9 | Jonathan Pajou, of course, is the leader of the symbolic world movement, which is a YouTube channel and a website and I think a |
| 1:36.4 | printing press now as well, right? Yeah, we just started a press like a few months ago with our, |
| 1:41.2 | with our fairy tale series. Yeah, yeah yeah so a lot of wonderful things going on |
| 1:45.4 | there i mean so many resources wonderful people a part of that whole movement and then jonathan |
| 1:51.4 | also is a orthodox icon carver an artist and today we'll be referencing some things from his |
| 1:58.6 | video on contemporary art i'll put a link here. |
| 2:01.6 | And then David Schindler, of course, writes under the pen name DC Schindler, |
| 2:06.6 | professor of anthropology and metaphysics, I think, at John Paul II Institute, and then author of many great works. |
| 2:13.6 | So David and I have been doing a series on David's book, Freedom from Reality. |
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