This is Jockel Podcast number 309 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Good evening, Aiko.

Good evening.

Also joining us tonight, JP to know.

Good evening, JP.

Good evening.

So I got very lucky in my career.

Very lucky in my career and was able to learn a lot from me and in the military.

And a lot of what the military taught me, I was able to learn because I was able to teach.

I was, you get put in positions in the military where you're teaching, which is an awesome

way to learn.

And it starts in the SEAL team, starts really young.

The first time you go overseas, you're going to be teaching.

You're going to be teaching some host nation, personnel, marksmanship or map and compass

or whatever.

So you're just kind of learning how to teach.

But then, when I really realized the power of teaching and learning at the same time was

when I was in training cell at SEAL team one, when I got into training cell at SEAL team

one.

So I had done three deployments, three workups, three deployments and I went into training

cell at SEAL team one.

And when I got to say training cell at SEAL team one, I was single, no kids, no cares,

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