Hello and welcome to a very special live preview for the cinephiles and when I say this is special

I mean I am sitting in the actual room. Yeah with the great John Roca

You have been allowed into the outlaw nation offices. Thank you so much for coming to San Diego

Of course, you didn't come just to see me. You saw a bunch of wild animals you hung out with your family

But you also went it to hang out one last time with this wild animal and we're recording a live preview because a number of our

cinephiles of listeners and patrons fans have asked us to talk about Batman mask of the

Phantasm because of the sad recent passing of Kevin Conroy Steve. You know it's so funny because there are all these

debates about who is the best Batman yeah what is the best Batman movie but it seems to me based on just the

very scientific survey of you know social media of course is that Kevin Conroy is

universally beloved I know it's fascinating do you have issues with the fact that he's the voice of Batman

But he's not actually the physical embodiment on camera except for that one episode in a crossover CW series

Does that in any way for you hold your

I'm gonna say this hold your approval of him being considered the best Batman. Are you?

Who has introduced yourself regularly as a voice-over artist asking me if I put the art of voice-over on a lower level?

No, no, I'm acting in general because I've heard these rumblings from certain Batman fans who go like it doesn't count because he's not on camera

And that's what you really need to be a Batman get the voice right and be on camera

But I think that's sacrilege don't you?

I think that the anybody who starts their thing with it doesn't count

Kind of loses my interest so you hate all the refs as we're saying

They're just a fair point. That's a fair point. I agree with that

But what I mean is it's like celebrate the dude for what he did

Yeah, yeah, and what he did was and is it hard work?

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