I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning That you might be a treasure

I could touch but never hold

Hello, lovely soberful listeners.

It's Veronica

And I am here today to talk to you

about a subject that I think is the most vital thing that you need to

understand about how sobriety works. That sobriety is just a shift in perception. I am going

to use as an aid, a book that I love that really, really illustrates this.

And it's called The Obstacle is the Way, the timeless art of turning trials into triumph by Ryan Holliday.

What he does is he really pulls from the Greek philosophers, particularly Stoicism.

Every so often I'll come across a book that just is so aligned with what I teach about sobriety.

And this book is one of them.

And I'm going to, I just find that so fascinating, right?

That humans were talking and thinking about

perception thousands of years ago. Even though their cultures were very different from ours,

they were thinking about the same things and having the same awakenings and realizations

that we were today. That just kind of blows my mind. So that's what

we're going to be talking about today. I really urge you to listen to all this episode. And it's,

it's my take. It may not necessarily be the way other people see it. But this is my take on

what you really, really have to understand about sobriety to get sober and to stay sober.

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