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Jen Rubin's Green Room

30: The Electronic Front Lines with Yael Eisenstat

Jen Rubin's Green Room

Jen Rubin's Green Room

Politics, News Commentary, News, Society & Culture

4.8578 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Jen welcomes ADL vice president Yael Eisenstat to discuss her experience fighting against the growing extremism on social platforms.  Drawing on Yael’s time at Facebook, they explore the complicity of companies willing to harness bigotry and partisanship for views, the danger of political lies and vote manipulation on the social platforms, and how companies are hiding behind claims that they can’t moderate speech and that the viewers are getting what they’re looking for.  However; they go on to expose the manipulative and partisan nature of bad algorithms and the risks of reproducing this effect in A.I., before looking at possible solutions across the corporate, government, and individual levels.

Get More From This Week’s Guest:

Yael Eisenstat:
Twitter | Website | ADL | TED | Statement on A.I. to the Senate

Get More From Jennifer Rubin:
Twitter | WaPo | Author of “Resistance: How Women Saved Democracy From Donald Trump”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Jen Rubin, and this is Jen Rubin's green room. A lot is going on in the news, isn't it?

0:19.4

First of all, some good news. We had two really, really important

0:25.0

decisions out of federal court last Friday, one from the D.C. Circuit Court that held Donald

0:31.7

Trump does not have absolute immunity against civil suits. And the other, even more more important from Judge Chapkin, who is the

0:40.2

judge in Donald Trump's criminal trial set for March 4 on the D.C. charges against him arising

0:50.5

from January 6th. She too helped that he enjoys no absolute immunity from prosecution

0:57.8

because he was president at the time. There's no such thing as a get out of jail card,

1:04.1

she said. And boy, is that important because that was probably his best chance not to avoid entirely prosecution,

1:14.6

but to drag this out past next year's election. Not only because she had such a clear,

1:22.9

well-reasoned decision, but because the appellate court also has weighed in on this, in all likelihood,

1:30.3

he is headed for trial in March of 2024. And that is, as our dear president says, a big

1:38.0

effing deal. That means that before voters go to the polls in 2024 November, they may well learn that Donald Trump is a

1:48.1

convicted felon. And that, despite all the talk that nobody believes anything, his base will never

1:55.4

leave him, Republicans have bought into this, actually will be perhaps determinative in the outcome because

2:03.7

large numbers of voters, believe it or not, still don't want a felon in the White House.

2:08.5

Imagine that. We still have some standards. So that is a very, very positive development.

2:15.5

Meanwhile, the Gaza-Hamas war goes on, and not only does the agony of the Palestinians trapped

2:27.2

in Gaza, because of Hamas, continue, but we are learning more and more, and thank God the

2:32.9

media is covering more and more the

2:36.1

horrors that went on in Israel and that happened to the hostages while they were in Gaza.

2:42.2

For many, many weeks, the UN, human rights groups, much of the media has ignored the sexual

2:50.3

violence that took place in Israel on October 7.

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