Welcome to the Not Old Better Show, I'm Paul Vogel Sank and this is episode number 295.

As part of our Smithsonian Associates Art of Living Interview Series, our guest today is Dr.

Calder Walton.

Dr. Calder Walton is author of the new book, Empire of Secrets, British Intelligence, the Cold War,

and the twilight of empire. Dr. Calder Walton is the Ernest May Fellow

at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University where his research includes espionage, the Intelligence Services in Great Britain, MI5, and the U.S. CIA and others.

Dr. Calder Walton is a leading expert in the history of espionage and intelligence

is author of the new book, Empire Secrets and serves as general editor of the

Cambridge History of Espionage and Intelligence, a three-volume 90 chapter

Landmark Research Study exploring the role of intelligence in

statecraft and warfare to this day and why it's still alive from Moscow after the

Cambridge five. So the five Cambridge spies, they are so important to understand post-war international relations between Britain and America and the Soviet Union.

Their revelation plunged international relations to new depths in the Cold War.

And for Russia today, it's a Cold War that it seems never really ended.

What we find in the records that have come out recently in Britain and America is that the truth is even stranger than fiction.

The files that I've looked at for this research seem like something straight out of a John Lakerre novel.

And as I said, it's still alive for Moscow, so I think that's very important for us too.

That of course is our guest today, Dr. Calder Walton.

Dr. Walton will be discussing espionage,

the Intelligence Services, and chatting about his new book,

Empire of Secrets, at the upcoming Smithsonian Associates program titled The Cambridge Five,

Soviet Intelligence Spies.

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