AI is a big controversy right now, right?

Like, oh, it's going to take over people's jobs.

And I don't necessarily see it as totally taking over people's jobs.

I see it as reducing the amount of work that is going to be needed from those people, which means there will

be less money going to individuals to do that work. The Hey everybody today's episode is a special one for me because it's a trip down

memory lane and before I introduce my guest for today's, I want to tell you how we first met.

And there's some funny stories that we're going to talk about that and what has changed over all these years.

So I'm out of school and I have a brief stint working as the designer at Epitaph Records, but it's not a good fit for me so I go freelance.

And with no leads and no prospects, I don't even know what I was thinking is just quitting this job, but hey, whatever, I leap first and check to see if there's water in the pool.

Coincidentally, at this time, my work had been circulated on the Adobe I guess Adobe After Effects CD Rumb and it was

being circulated with some student work that had done and a gentleman reached out to

me his name is David Newberger and he invited me to come in and speak to him at Novocom.

So I'm in downtown LA and I make my way over to Hollywood.

I think it's off Santa Monica and I go to his place called Novocum and I park in the back and I was like,

it's a little different and I'm walking in and I'm like, wow, this is a lot different when I walk in.

And in comes this gentleman. His name is Ian Dawson and he's an executive producer and he's very friendly and he comes over to me

he's Chris have you had anything need I was like what I'm here to work bro he's

come on come on he brings me down this long hall,

we would turn to the left, and there's this spread that you just cannot believe.

And I feel like I'm staying at a high-end hotel with a buffet breakfast spread and he's like she'll make anything you want you want an

omelette you want something and the spread was ridiculous and I was very self-conscious

so I was thinking,

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