Hi, I'm Sarah and I'm Helen and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast. In the next few episodes, we're doing something a little bit different and we're focusing on some of the factors outside of work that we think will help you to succeed in work. And the topics that we're covering are health, sleep, money, and today we're going to be talking about

relationships. And we're absolutely not the expert in any of these areas. And so for every

episode, we've both chosen a different book to read. And in our conversations together,

we're going to talk about what we've learnt, how it's helped us, and hopefully how it might

help you too.

And so today is all about relationships.

And Helen, what book have you chosen and why did that book spring to mind for you?

Well, I chose a brand new book that is out in September.

So it's not even out yet, but you can't pre-order it.

I know.

I've got sent a special, I've got a stick on the front that says, I'm just showing off.

I know.

Advanced Reader's copy.

But the book, it's called Getting Along, Subtitle, How to Work with Anyone, Even Difficult People, by

Amy Gallo.

Now, I know, we're talking about sort of...

No, is that you, because you're like, Sarah's so difficult.

I just really need this in my life.

You know what? I sort of debated this. I was bated this being my choice

quite a bit actually because I was thinking, well, isn't it, what we're trying to focus on with

this series is the stuff that you can focus on outside of work to help you improve inside of work.

So I was thinking, isn't it more about the relationships you invest in outside of work

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