Hi, I'm Sarah and I'm Helen and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast. In the next few episodes,

we're doing something a little bit different. We're focusing on some of the factors outside of

work that we think will help you to succeed in work. And the topics we're covering our

health, sleep, money and relationships.

And we're absolutely not the expert in any of these topics.

So we've decided to choose a different book to both read.

And in our conversations together, we'll be talking about what we've learned and how it's helped us and hopefully how it might help you too.

You realize Sarah, that our work should be transformed by the end of this series.

Right. I mean, let's maybe wait until yesterday's conversation before we decide whether

that's true or not. Because today we are focusing on money. And I think it's fair to say,

of all of the four topics, we have found this one quite tricky

to discover the right books that we thought were going to be helpful for everybody listening.

So Helen, do you want to talk to us a bit about what book you have ended up choosing and why?

Yeah, I started and stopped with a few and I was like, this isn't useful. This isn't useful. And I ended up with one, which was interesting. I've had to make, like, work quite hard to make it useful. But I didn't think I could pick up and put down another book of money. So I've gone with a book that has had over one million copies sold. It proudly says on the front, the psychology of money, timeless lessons on wealth, greed and happiness by Morgan Housel. So similar to Helen, I started and

stopped quite a few different books. Now I do want to give a shout out to one book that I did read

and just didn't quite work for our podcast format but was a useful read. And that was Money,

a User's Guide, and that's by Laura Whatley. I've seen it in

loads of bookshops, gets really good reviews and ratings. And I think as a practical guide

to finance, it is really helpful. It will tell you what an ICER is. It'll explain how

renting works. But it's almost so relentlessly practical it didn't really unless i was going to

come up the podcast and talk to you about icers and savings it didn't really feel like it was

going to work but that was a useful book on money and i've recommended it actually to a few people

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