Hello, welcome to the podcast, Owen Jones here. Today, Jack Mumbo, they are an all-round

great egg, anti-poverty activist, a fighter against the horrifying scourge of food poverty,

not least during the pandemic. Someone who has made a really big impact, we talk about

a lot of stuff, including struggling back, fighting back against injustice, which they

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I am exceptionally lucky to have the one, the only, Jack Monroe, with the world's most

excellent jumper, which, if you're listening to this on the podcast, is, you can describe

it, Jack, I'll let you describe your jumper. It's actually a replica of Princess Diana's

famous sheep jumper that she wore to the polo in 1979. Now, I'm not a natural royalist,

but as a child, I was like obsessed with Princess Diana. My mum used to go and visit an elderly

lady from church called Gladys, and I was sitting at a porch, reading her like society magazines

at the age of like eight, and I was very enamouredly with Princess Diana, and I loved that jumper,

and you can get like replica conversions of it, and someone got it for me for Christmas this year,

and it was literally over the moon. So it's a red jumper with, with like loads of white

sheep across it, with one little black sheep, then where the black sheep sits tends to depend

what under supporting garments I'm wearing at the time. Sometimes it's high on the hill, and sometimes it's

like quite low down. And yeah, so red jumper, having a white sheep, one little black sheep in the corner,

it's got sheep on the back as well. It is a really happy making jumper. I got sheep, I know,

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