How did you find your way into doing what you're doing now? Like just therapy, the general world of mental health, psychology, all those things? And then I want to talk about that and then afterwards I'd love to talk about how you got into focusing on relationships in particular. But just to start with, how did you find your mind to what you're doing?

You know, I guess I it started with a desire to connect with me with myself more deeply and I've always been very

physically active and I really I mean one day I was like my boyfriend I was in my

20s and I was with my boyfriend at the time and he was like

starting to do yoga at the gym and then he was like you know bent down and touched his toes and I was like well I can you can, you know, I work out all the time, I can touch my toes, and I was like, I couldn't touch my toes. I was like, this is ridiculous. Can't touch my toes. I need to get flexible and I felt very drawn to trying yoga and I did and pretty much immediately after my first class I was completely hooked. We call it like, you know, being bitten by the yoga bug, which is basically instead of liking it and going to a yoga class once in a while,

it was like, okay, I have to do this every day and every day for the rest of my life.

It was that kind of thing.

And so I started practicing yoga every single day and I became completely obsessed with it and

decided that I had wanted to teach it about a couple years, about three years or so, for three or four years or four years into practicing it regularly.

And I loved it so much because the practice of the physical practice of yoga,

yoga assina, is to learn how to

to balance the mind and the body.

That's really what it is.

How do we balance the mind and the body?

And it's with the understanding that, you know,

there really is no connection between the mind and the body it actually is one thing.

It's like really one entity. And I found that it gave me great inner peace. I found that it made me feel just totally better.

It just made me feel very connected and I didn't know it at the

time but I think that there was just always I really believe there's something in

in the yoga text that's that refers to a person's darma and a person's

darma is really what their purpose is in life and

everyone has their own darma and I didn't know it at the time but my darma I

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