Your new book breaking the cycle is such a great,

as such a timely, like an important topic,

you know, to be bringing forward right now for people, like what was it that made you

select that as what you're going to write your book about?

Well, you know, I had been talking about breaking cycles and intergenerational trauma for a number of years and it trauma is my core area of focus and the work

inside of the therapy room as we say had always had all these layers kind of attached to us I was already

doing that work specifically in my work anyways and you know I the more that I spoke to colleagues, to people that I connected with on social media, to my own clients, to my family even, and even when I had to have conversations with myself I thought

there is no one place where we can comprehensively say we have some sort of a roadmap that at least we can utilize as a guidebook to help us dig into the layers in a way that feels accessible, tangible, sustainable, and perhaps hopefully,

you know, life changing in some way because I think people typically need a lot of therapy sessions to even get into the layers of the details that I cover like in the book and my hope is that you know I see that we're in a global

mental health crisis a lot of us are hurting and I think you know we need these

tools now so I'm just I'm grateful that I get an opportunity to write this book and to have it out into the world.

Yeah, beautiful, beautiful.

So I'd love to hear your description of generational trauma because I think it's something that everyone

experiences, whether they realize it or not, but I think just having you shape it up would be really

valuable for people.

Absolutely, yeah. So intergenerational trauma is actually very unique in that it is the

only type of trauma that's handed down our family line. So it's a very unique type of

experience that we tend to have because it's at the intersection of our biology and our psychology.

And what I mean by that is that from a biological standpoint,

we actually have certain ways in which genetically we inherit specific genetic markers that can actually be representative

of vulnerabilities to stress and trauma and that comes from our parents, grandparents, and so on.

Then when we're born, we actually, you know,

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