Eventually we actually get into designing a prototype.

That's when we booked out this Airbnb in Santa Monica for a week.

We just needed to be in a space together for at least a week where we could just

have those 16 to 18 hour days building and that's

when we came up with the first prototype per circle. I'm going to do. It's always a delight and pleasure for me to speak to CEOs because they get to see things from a very different level and it's even better when they start out at the very early stages of a company so they can see all the different growth stages and so that's why I'm super excited to be speaking to Sid. He's the co-founder and CEO of Circle, something that we use, full disclosure, a big fan of fan of you know we use both teachable and there's some history there and circle and we've seen it go through some growing pains and it's starting to get into a rhythm where I think it's actually very usable now.

And so, for people who don't know who you are,

can you please introduce yourself?

Give us a little background of your story

and then we can go from there.

Yeah, first off, thank you so much Chris for having me on the show.

I mean, my co-founder and I talk about you guys using Circle, when I was like,

Chris is the dream customer. So if we can make Chris happy, I know we're building a great product.

So love how everything kind of is coming back full circle.

So yeah, my name's Sidiadav.

I'm the co-founder and CEO of Circle.

We're an all in one community platform for creators and brands.

Started in 2019, now a team of, I think this month we're going to be 140.

Wow.

Yeah, it's been a crazy few years.

But it really feels like we're just getting started.

And so here's the interesting thing. So if we can

rewind the tape, before I get into like what you're doing now, what you're

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