As I've become more liberated and more soft in my grasp on these things and more neutral about my body,

I've had energy that I've been able to pour into other parts of my life.

I'm a letter about Hi. Let it out.

I'm a host, Katie Delvout. This is a long one and one that I shared about on my Instagram stories a couple days ago, just so excited to release this episode

as I was editing it and listening to it.

It took me several days to get through, and it might also for you.

And I found myself rationing it to the point where I was walking and listening

to a little bit one morning and a little bit the next morning. And then the third day when I

didn't have it to listen to, it threw me off because it just made me feel better listening

to this conversation for two mornings. Savala is a writer. She's an attorney.

She's wonderful. And I hope we'll become a friend. The whole like trope of this episode was me

being like, I heard you on our mutual friend, Christy Harrison's podcast Food Psych, which if you don't know

Christy and you don't know food psych, what are you doing? It's such a wonderful podcast and resource,

and Christy's a friend of mine. She's done my podcast several times. I've done her podcast a couple

times, and she's a mentor to me and a friend of Savala and a couple months ago I heard

Savala on Christie's podcast and learned a lot and also just liked her. I like her voice. I like how

articulate she is and smart but also just interesting and chill and funny. And when we got to the

end and she was recommending things, I was just like, yeah, you're, you're someone that I look up to

and would like to hang out with regularly. We touch on anxiety. She's an anxious one, like a lot of us. We talk about that

specifically connected to technology and how we use our iPhones. We talk about the need for resting,

meditation. She's very articulate in the way she explains meditation at the end of this episode.

We talk about romantic

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