I bought an industrial sewing machine and I had it delivered to my house, brand new.

I had never sewed one stitch in my whole life and I had to open up the manual and

like figure out how to thread the needle through the bobbin and then two hours later I had my first

bag that I made myself and I had a factory in my living room. The The We've been doing this dance with my next guest for I think a number of years now where I've tried to get him to come on the podcast or something but as you're going to discover as I've learned a lot about my next guess he's a bit of a perfectionist

maybe a tiny little bit of control freak but I'm so happy that we're friends and that we get to do content together.

His name is Spencer Nacozzi and then Spencer for people who don't know who you are,

can you just introduce yourself? Tell us a little bit of your backstory and we'll go from there.

Yeah, my name is Spencer Nacozzi.

I'm a designer in LA, born and raised here, grew up in the San Fernando Valley, and I went to

Arts Center College of Design where I studied product design and when I was there I fell in love with

making things and building stuff so when I was a student I wound up making a bag for myself and that kind of got me on the

journey of constructing things that were actually real rather than building something that was like a model or a prototype that wasn't real.

It basically turned itself into like a lifelong passion of making things.

So I built a bag when I was a student and basically turned it into a brand.

And as soon as I graduated with school, I launched a company making bags and built my own factory.

And now 14 years later, I'm still doing the same thing.

And I have my own factory here in at Water,

Village in Los Angeles and we make the best bags in the world.

100% okay I want to get into your brand, Kill Spencer and all the things that you're doing there, because I believe

it is a dream for many artist designers, industrial designers or otherwise to have something that is your own and you get to build and control

and you get to go as fast as you want or as slow as you want and you get to dictate the terms.

But before we get there, I want to go back to your past. You grew up around a very creative household. Tell me a little bit about your parents and anything else that was kind of like creating the early formations of you as a creative human.

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