This is the Bama podcast with Marty Solomon. I'm his co-host, Brent Billings. Today we are

considering a provocative teaching of Jesus that nearly got him executed. Yeah, maybe we'll try to

give people a break after our last week's episode. We'll try to take it a little easier on people,

give some maybe have some heady up in the clouds conversation, short little conversation, give people

a little chance to like catch their breath again. Although I will note that this episode is

definitely of a piece with the previous one. It's like a continuing part of the conversation of

what we're talking about last time. So you said it not me, but you're absolutely right. Yep,

no, that goes for like the last, I don't know, five episodes or something like this is,

this has been a big conversation that Jesus is having. Yeah, goodness. And it's really difficult

to like, wade through, but you're absolutely right. And I'm glad you pointed it out because you're

correct. And he keeps like shifting his focus like he makes one group angry and then he starts

talking to like, okay, well, some of them believed him. He's like, okay, so let me talk to these

people. And then by the end of that, he's going to, they're going to want to stone him. Yep.

So yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Well, it is, it is one big conversation. Absolutely. And it's

and again, if we're reflecting on, and I, we spent a lot of time here last episode trying to remove

it from this abstract historical observation and trying to associate it, make the parallel,

try to figure out what it is to learn in our own setting and historical context for our own day.

And if that's true, like we just, we, if we continue that, we start right in the first verse

with like the worst ad hominem attack I've ever seen. But again, so on brand

for the religious conversation, we would do that on Facebook a million times over today. So

this isn't, this isn't anything new. But after the conversation, we had the last episode. Let's

hear where they pick up with the very next verse here, Brent. The Jews answered him,

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