Welcome to the My Buddy Green podcast. I'm Jason Walkab, founder and co-ceeo of My Buddy Green and your host.

Gary Taub's is an award-winning science and health journalist and a prolific best-selling author.

He's a recipient of a Robert Wood Johnson Foundation investigator award in health policy research

and the author of the latest must read entitled The Case for Kito,

rethinking weight control and science and practice of low-carb high-fat eating.

Gary, welcome.

I think it's good to be here.

So, so many great books from you,

always provocative, always thought-provoking,

and the latest is called the case for kido and I love the way you open this book

because you say we tend to preach the choir sometimes in the world of wellness

But you open by saying, I'm not writing this book for the lean and healthy of the world. Your words, which I love, so my question to you is and you talk about this like who are you

writing this book for? Okay so I'm not all that interest. Well there's two

issues here. One is whatever the lean healthy people are doing, they should stay doing it, right? It's not broken, don't fix it, I believe that. And as we'll talk about later and I talk about in the book, I think one of the problems is we've

been getting a sort of lean and healthy person perspective and what we have to do to correct

our health and our weight and that's the wrong perspective because what works for them doesn't work for us.

And then so I want to talk and talk to these people who are struggling with their

weight so they're on the spectrum from overweight to obesity from

three diabetes metabolic syndrome means some resistance to full-blown diabetes their

blood pressure is going up. Those people need help and they've been getting the wrong

advice if we're right and everything I say can be caveated by if we're right. I'm just going to say that now and leave it

behind and then I'm writing for their doctors because for 50 years a

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