So I didn't know this until, I think this morning I woke up and read an article that June is men's mental health awareness month.

Did you know that?

I did not until you told me.

So the Desert News just did a story on this.

TikTok brings awareness to men's mental health awareness month.

And the minute I saw that, that headline, I thought, well, that's really cool because

there's definitely a huge need for talking about men's mental health.

And so maybe we just start out with that with like the

stigma and why to me that stood out as like a something that is so needed in this world today.

What's your perspective on that? Well, that's, yeah, initially that's kind of my thought is like

men's specifically, not just a mental, because there's already like a mental health month, right?

Right.

Yep.

But men's mental health, obviously there's enough of a need to focus on that due to statistics,

due to, you know, whatever data we have that would suggest that there's, this is a major issue

with men and we need to like raise

awareness to it by means of having an entire month just solely devoted to men's mental health

awareness. So it makes sense to me, I think just coming from the standpoint of being in a family

with six boys.

Yeah.

And you just, and I've heard this so many times that I know that my experience isn't unique, like a lot of people that I've been around or just gone and been in,

I've been in a lot of like men's groups talk about is kind of some of

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