Good pain is like a choice that you make to

use struggle to your advantage and not to be blown over by it. Let it out. Let it out. Hi.

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Let it out.

Hi.

Welcome to Let It Out, my podcast. I'm Katie Delbao, your host. This podcast was meant to be

in a break, but here I am with a bonus episode for you. There are some songs that I crave

listening to over and over again. I love them so much that I find myself sort of rationing them

and not allowing myself to listen to them as often as I want to for fear that I'll get sick of them

and then I'll love them less and inevitably I do, but then I find new songs eventually.

But these select favorites that I go through that obsessive phase of

will always remind me of the first time I heard them and what it was like to crave them.

And I do this with not just music, but mostly music,

but I do this with food and clothes and movies and places.

I find myself, like, denying my pleasure and putting off my joy for a time where I'll really need it.

Like, I can't watch that cozy movie unless I really need the cozy movie,

because then I might really need it, and I'll have just watched it so I

won't want it. It's like a security blanket, I think, but I guess I maybe wouldn't do that with a

security blanket. I would just allow it. But anyway, today's guest made one of those songs. It's called

Good Pain and we talk about it quite a bit in this episode, but there was a

period of time where all I wanted to listen to was that song. And I still really love the song.

It's poppy and a great song. And his other music is great too. And his dancing and his stage

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