263. Subtle Lies People Tell in Early Dating & How To Spot A "Dogfish" w/ The Dating Detectives
Dating Intentionally
Talia Koren
4.7 • 597 Ratings
🗓️ 15 May 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
I'm chatting with Hanna Anderson and Mackenzie Foltz, the co-hosts of The Dating Detectives, a podcast that combines real PI work with deeply ethical storytelling about people who got conned in love. We're discussing everything from what "dogfishing" actually is (and how it's different from catfishing) to the subtle early red flags most people miss, to why love bombing feels so good even when it's a setup. Mackenzie and Hanna also share their PI-approved guide to vetting someone you're dating without feeling "crazy," including the exact line to use when you've found something on them, plus practical safety tools every single person should know about. At the end, we tackle a dating dilemma about a guy who keeps liking other women's photos on Instagram after being asked to stop.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to dating intentionally. I'm Talia. I'm sharing no-nonsense advice for navigating |
| 0:09.7 | dating and relationships with confidence and ease, whether you've been dating for a while |
| 0:14.0 | or you're just starting out. I believe dating can be fun and I'm here to help you enjoy the process. |
| 0:19.6 | Today I'm joined by Hannah Anderson and McKenzie Fultz. |
| 0:23.1 | They're the host of The Dating Detectives, one of my favorite podcasts, even though I'm really not someone who's ever been into true crime. |
| 0:32.0 | I love the show, and I also had the honor of being a guest on the show a few months ago. |
| 0:37.1 | McKenzie is a private investigator with over 20 years of experience, |
| 0:41.5 | and Hannah is a writer and comedian, |
| 0:43.5 | and together they have built a show that I think takes the most ethical |
| 0:47.7 | and compassionate approach to true crime that I've ever come across. |
| 0:51.5 | And their show introduced a term that I had never heard of before. |
| 0:55.2 | Maybe you have. And that term is dog fishing. So this is different than cat fishing, which is when |
| 1:01.2 | someone uses a fake photo or identity online to cover up who they are. But dog fishing is when |
| 1:08.1 | they are who they say they are on the surface, like they're not covering up |
| 1:12.3 | their identity, but the deeper you go, the more you realize that they've been lying, manipulating, |
| 1:17.9 | or scamming you the entire time. And today, we're going to break down exactly how that |
| 1:22.2 | happens in the context of dating. And in this episode, we talk about the early red flags that are easy to, you know, |
| 1:28.8 | brush off, the psychology behind love bombing and why it works, how people use their own |
| 1:34.2 | traumas and unmet needs against you. And we get into practical safety tips for dating app users. |
| 1:40.8 | Also, we talk about what do you actually do if you think you're being dogfished. At the end, |
| 1:45.4 | we're going to answer a dating dilemma from someone who's been upfront about her boundaries and |
| 1:49.9 | the guy who's dating keeps crossing them anyway. I loved hearing McKenzie and Hannah's take on that, |
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