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The Rest Is Money

259. BONUS: Trump's War - why it's making us poorer

The Rest Is Money

Goalhanger

Politics, Business, News

3.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Trump appears to be chickening out again, but has he stopped the wild market fluctuations? Is there another way to move vital energy and commodities that doesn’t involve going through the Strait of Hormuz? How much damage has already been done to the global economy? And what does it mean for your mortgage? Robert and Steph discuss the latest market turmoil and the wave of companies invoking a “force majeure" clause to suspend contracts. Plus, as ever, they look at what all of this means for the UK economy. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠the⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Advertise with us: ⁠⁠⁠Partnerships@goalhanger.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

All I'm hearing from them is taco, taco, taco. You know, Trump always chickens out.

0:18.7

Hello to The Rest Is Money. It's a special edition with me, Robert Peston.

0:20.8

And me, Steph McGovern. Yeah. So a special episode for you to update you on the economic ramifications

0:26.2

of what is a very fast-moving situation with the Iran War.

0:31.9

We talked in our last episode on this about investors potentially underestimating the impact this war could have on the

0:38.9

global economy. And it felt like this week that they woke up to the impact because we suddenly

0:44.7

saw oil go over $100 a barrel. The stock market started to drop as well. And then yesterday, Trump came out with some very vague statements about the war being

0:58.3

very complete, whatever that means, and we saw a big reaction again for the market. So, Robert,

1:04.5

just bring us up to speed on it. Yes, so it was an absolutely hair-raising day yesterday.

1:10.3

I mean, obviously, since 2007 we... Yes, it was an absolutely hair-raising day yesterday.

1:18.0

I mean, obviously, since 2007, you and I have lived through some hair-raising market days.

1:21.1

There were some extreme ones during the global financial crisis. And yesterday, quite a lot of that sort of just feeling of chaos and mayhem just came flooding back.

1:29.6

I mean, just on oil, you know, at one point yesterday, Brent Crude, one of the benchmark

1:35.0

measures of the oil price, you know, touched $120.

1:39.4

And yesterday that was a sort of massive 20% surge.

1:42.2

But actually, the thing that was most extraordinary was the way that it yo-yoed because

1:47.5

after Trump said that his war aims, you know, were almost complete, whatever that means,

1:56.2

it then plunged $30, right?

1:58.7

So actually, as we speak, it's around $90, which is still, you know,

2:02.8

way higher. It's about 50% higher than it was, you know, before this war started. And, you know,

2:09.1

that was, that's still going to have pretty significant, uh, economic consequences if that

2:14.8

price for oil is sustained at that level. But, you know, when you get

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