258. How AI changes everything we should teach kids

The Rest Is Money

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Politics, Business, News

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🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Why is AI changing every job? Why is it insane that schools ban students from using it? How did Marc Warner grow his British tech leader Faculty AI into a £1bn-plus company? Robert and Steph talk exclusively to Marc Warner as he sells Faculty AI to the world’s biggest management consultancy Accenture, hear how he and his data team persuaded Boris Johnson to lock down at the start of Covid, and how the NHS has destroyed the early warning system he built. The Rest is Money is brought to you by Octopus Energy, Britain’s smart energy pioneer. Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠the⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠restismoney@goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TheRestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@RestIsMoney⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Advertise with us: ⁠⁠Partnerships@goalhanger.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	That's mad.
0:01.0	Clinically insane.
0:02.0	Completely mad.
0:03.0	If AI makes it harder for, let's say, us to test people cannot take away the absolute
0:10.2	best tools for learning that maybe humanity has ever invented.
0:13.8	On the one hand, there will be people displaced.
0:16.8	On the other hand, if we artificially limit our companies from making people redundant,
0:21.6	then they'll become uncompetitive and those people will lose their jobs anyway.
0:25.3	Threading this needle of what's the right level of displacement and how do we make the best of that
0:30.9	is actually a really hard problem as well.
0:33.6	There are political risks. There's the concentration of power.
0:36.9	To our mind, the best mitigation that we can think of for those risks is that...
0:42.3	Hello and welcome to the rest is Money with me, Robert Peston.
0:57.0	And with me, Steph McGovern. And today we've got a fantastic guest for you, Mark Warner.
1:02.0	He is a founder of a fantastic London-based AI company that he's in the middle of selling to Ascensure for a billion dollars, making it the UK's newest tech unicorn, Robert.
1:12.9	I want to talk to him about why he's concerned about the safety of AI. Is AI going to take
1:17.4	our jobs? Why he has sold out to the world's biggest consultancy Accenture and how he persuaded
1:23.9	the Prime Minister at the time Boris Johnson Johnson, to lock down during COVID.
1:29.8	Mark, it's an absolute treat to have you here on the show. Robert and I are both fascinated
1:35.5	by your business. Well done and all the success with it. But can you just tell us a bit about
1:40.5	what faculty is, you know, because this is a business that started with you and two
1:44.9	friends, two colleagues and has become, well, the UK's latest unicorn, tech unicorn, which is an
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