Welcome to a tech policy podcast. I'm Ashken Kuzarian. On today's show, we're going to talk about gig economy and women.

Joining me is Patrice and Wuka, senior policy analyst with an independent women's forum. Patrice, thank you so much for joining us.

Oh, thank you, Ash. So before we dive into gig economy and women, tell us a little bit about what independent

women's forum is.

What is your organization?

Sure.

We're a nonprofit organization.

We educate women about how greater freedom, less government regulation, more economic freedom, more economic freedom is better for their outcomes,

you know, better for them and their families, better for their economic opportunities,

and better for their lives.

And so we cover a range of topics.

We have smart, independent thinking women who write policy solutions, common sense policy

on a range of topics from immigration to labor law, which is something that I doubt on.

And so I focus on how do we expand opportunity for American workers and particularly women.

So how long has independent women's Forum have been around?

Oh, we've been around for a couple of decades now.

We've been, boy, I think coming out of some of our founders, you know, saw an opportunity

in the conservative movement in the freedom space after the Clarence Thomas hearings.

But recognizing that women, there's a unique way to speak to women about the issues and the

principles that we care about. We don't sacrifice principle, but there are some women view things

differently than men do sometimes. And so, you know, we speak to women. We don't dump things down for them,

but we go to where they are. And we don't just reach out to conservative women. We like to

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