This is Jockel Podcast number 255 with Echo Charles and me,

Jockel Willink, good evening, echo, and joining us again,

this Dave Burke, good evening Dave, good evening.

So we go on with guidelines for the leader and commander.

And I think at this point, I'm not even sure that I'm just doing this purely out of my own joy.

Of having searched for this book for more than a decade,

finally have found a copy and now I'm making everyone else enjoy it with me.

We covered this book on 251-252-253-254.

But there's a reason.

There's a reason to dig through the past to our roots, to my roots.

The roots from this book, from a man that served in World War I, World War II,

Korea, General Bruce Clark, Bruce Clark, who then overlap that service in Korea with Colonel

David Hackworth who served in Korea and then Vietnam and who wrote the book about face.

These are the lessons that I learned that I tried to pass on.

And the DNA is so clear, it's so clear to read this book and see that DNA to find the roots of knowledge.

And knowing it, we learn more. And that's the goal.

The goal is to learn and improve and get better.

So guidelines for the leader and commander by General Bruce Clark. Here we go.

Back to the book. This next section, and I'll be honest with you, the last section,

I liked it. There's some lessons to take away as for sure.

This one I started getting, this one I had a good time with.

And I was a little worried at first because the last section we were talking about was

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