Episode 251 of the way I heard it is called, and I'm quoting,

You wear 40 pounds of gear because, you know, you're on fire quite a bit.

That's a direct quote.

That's exactly what he said.

And it's not a direct quote from a fireman. It's a direct

quote from from a race car driver, specifically Matt Hagan who drives funny cars for a living

when he's not running his ranch or his farm or growing strawberries or bringing in human fertilizer, or...

Picking up tampons.

...drawing CBD.

Yeah.

Don't wreck everything.

This is a super weird, completely unscriptable, but ultimately, I think one of the more valuable

conversations we've ever had.

Matt Hagan got on our radar because he works with Chloe Hudson. And if you're a

regular listener, you've heard us sing Chloe's praises for a while now. She's a work ethic scholarship

recipient from like four years ago, who is now just a poster person welder for Joe Gibbs Racing.

Chloe is her own subject, her own podcast, her own thing.

But she and Matt know one another.

I met Matt in New York when I took Chloe on Fox and Friends.

Remember?

It's like six, seven months ago. He is this big

strapping farmer who is also a rancher. And when I learned that he drove race cars, I was like,

...