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PRETEND

2503: Didn't See It Coming (Part 3)

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

Society & Culture, True Crime, Technology

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The sting is set. The bait is in place. Six skeptics are logged into a Zoom call, pretending to be grieving siblings. They've paid $1,400 for a private reading with a medium Susan Gerbic believes is a hot reader. Months of planning have led to this moment. And then... the medium does something no one expected. In the finale of this three-part series, we find out what happened to Operation Banana Cream Pie. Then, Susan shares recordings from other readings she's analyzed, walking us through what she believes is evidence of hot reading in action. We break down the techniques, examine the receipts, and let you decide what it all means. Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:39.3

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0:40.3

Quick note before we dive in, what you are about to hear is the conclusion of an investigation.

0:46.3

We're examining claims, reviewing recordings, and sharing what we found.

0:51.3

But I want to be clear, this episode is not proof of anything.

0:56.1

As always, feel free to come up with your own conclusion.

0:59.5

But for now, let's get on with the show.

1:06.5

Previously on Pretend,

1:15.4

six skeptics went undercover in a sting called Operation Banana Cream Pie.

1:16.9

They were strangers, playing siblings, grieving a sister who never existed.

1:22.5

And why were they doing this?

1:24.1

To catch a psychic medium, doing a hot read. using publicly available information to fake a connection to the dead.

1:35.8

The sting which was orchestrated by skeptic Susan Gerbik took months of planning.

1:41.8

Fake obituaries, fake backstories, fake backstories, fake photographs, a whole fictional

1:46.5

family built from scratch scattered across a Facebook profile, like little tiny breadcrumbs.

1:54.4

If Suzanne Wilson, the medium, references any of this bogus material, it would strongly suggest that she's not just channeling spirits.

2:03.6

She's channeling Facebook.

2:05.6

Susan Gerbik believes that the psychic medium is going to take the bait.

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