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Listener Reaction: Didn't See It Coming Part 3

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Javier Leiva

Society & Culture, True Crime, Technology

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2026

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

Patreon supporter Kenito Wills joins Javier to break down the finale of the "Didn't See It Coming" series. They talk through Susanne Wilson calling off the reading at the last minute. Did she know it was a sting? Did she just have a bad feeling? Javier shares a detail that got cut from the episode: Suzanne actually arranged for the fake family to get a reading with another medium in Europe, which suggests she wasn't 100% sure it was a setup. Plus: Kenito and Javier swap palm reading stories from college. Kenito was told he'd have five kids (he didn't). Javier was told he'd meet the love of his life right after a bad breakup (he did). The takeaway isn't that psychics aren't real or that you can't grieve however you want. It's that if someone mentions Reynolds Wrap and your maiden name is Reynolds, maybe ask some questions. Susan Gerbic's YouTube channel "Psychics Explained" has dozens of videos documenting Operation Banana Cream Pie and other investigations. Link in the show notes. Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln Want to see more psychic stings? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

True Story Media

0:05.4

Hey everyone, it's me Javier.

0:09.4

I am doing another bonus episode.

0:11.7

This time is for part three of Didn't See It Coming.

0:15.5

I'm joined today by one of my Patreon supporters, a longtime Patreon supporter,

0:19.8

probably the loudest

0:21.0

patron supporter I have, which is Canito Wills.

0:25.2

Welcome to the bonus episode, Canito.

0:27.7

Hello.

0:28.5

So is Canito Wills, right?

0:30.3

Yes.

0:31.0

And where's that from?

0:31.9

What, where's that name from?

0:33.9

That's a cool name.

0:34.5

It's actually not my real legal name.

0:36.8

It is a name that was given to me

0:38.1

by many of the Mexican people I work with at Tyson. And they just started calling me Kenito and it's

0:45.7

stuck and I just, now I use it. So I love it. My real name is actually Kent. It's Kent Wills.

0:52.5

Oh, Kenito. Okay. So we just call like everything Ito. We just added Eito to the end of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. It's exciting. Is this your first time during a podcast? Yeah. Actually, it is. In this setting, it's okay, right? You're not a con artist. Are you, Canito? No, no.

1:12.4

No, everything I do is pretty ethical.

1:13.3

I, you know.

1:24.3

But Canito, so we're here to discuss part three of didn't see it coming, which is kind of like a big, you know, it ended, part two ended with this huge cliffhanger.

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