Listener Reaction: Didn't See It Coming part 2

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Javier Leiva

Society & Culture, True Crime, Technology

4.7 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Patreon supporter Christine Harnos (not the Star Trek actress, the other one) joins Javier to break down Part 2 of the "Didn't See It Coming" series before listening to the finale. They get into the weeds on Susan Gerbic's sting setup: the Facebook accounts she's been maintaining for years, the fake obituary, the hog farm detail. If a psychic mentions pigs, you know something's up. They also discuss the difference between hot reading and cold reading, why "scientifically tested" doesn't mean what mediums want you to think it means, and the troubling relationship between psychic mediums and grief support organizations like Helping Parents Heal. Christine also shares a strange, unexplainable moment from her own life involving her daughter and a daycare power outage. Want more? Susan Gerbic documented the entire Operation Banana Cream Pie sting on her YouTube channel "Psychics Explained"—20+ videos of behind-the-scenes footage. Link in the show notes. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:07.4	Today on our bonus episode, we have Patreon listener, Christine Harnos, with us. Not the
1:13.5	actress from Star Trek, apparently. The other Christine Harnos. Welcome to the pretend bonus recap episode,
1:22.4	Christine. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah.
1:27.6	I was really excited to get the email request.
1:30.8	Yeah, this has been a really cool journey for me because this is just an excuse for me to hang out with my Patreon supporters because for those of you who are not on Patreon, we talk all the time.
1:41.4	We sometimes we listen to episodes at the same time and we're chatting back
1:46.0	and forth. But I, you know, it's, this is an opportunity for me to like actually bring one of
1:51.8	my listeners in and actually talk about the episode, what they liked, what they didn't like.
1:56.9	And I've been reaching out personally to to some of my top Patreon supporters. And Christine
2:02.7	was one of them. She was on the short list. And so I was like, hey, you want to come on
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