Hey friends, Alisa Childers here. Last week we talked about the age of the earth and today

we're going to continue our discussion of cosmic origins. Why do we exist? Why does anything

exist at all? Did it all happen by natural random processes? Today's guest says no. She says

cosmology, astronomy, biochemistry and other disciplines strongly support what she calls the

maker thesis. We're going to ask her about it in just a moment.

My guest today is Melissa Cain Travis. Melissa is assistant professor of Christian apologetics at

Houston Baptist University. She's pursuing a PhD in humanities focusing on the history and philosophy

related to scientific and mathematical thought in the Western tradition and contemporary scholarship.

Melissa worked as a bench scientist in the fields of biotechnology and pharmaceutical research

for five years after obtaining her undergraduate degree and has spent more than a decade exploring

the science, theology and philosophy related to the origins debate. She's also an author. She's

written a series of incredible apologetic story books for kids and that's called the Young Defenders

series and we're going to talk about that today. In fact, parents, if you have kids just pause the show,

go over to Amazon and order these Young Defenders series apologetics books for kids. I've read them

to my kids. They are awesome. So she's the author of a new book called Science in the Mind of the Maker,

What the Conversation Between Faith and Science Reveals About God. So Melissa, thanks so much for

coming on the podcast today. Thank you for the invitation, Elisa. Well, faith and science are two

disciplines that many people think are sort of contradictory in nature. They just think, you know,

faith, science, they just can't get along together. They're just so different. And this leads some

Christians to shun science and some skeptics even believe that science in some way can disprove

the existence of God. I actually hear that all the time on Twitter and on other social media outlets.

But you wrote a really interesting blog post about this a while back and you argue that there is

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