25 for 25: The Rise of the Burger

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.8 • 8.6K Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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On today's episode, Dave talks about the rise of an icon in America: the burger! In the first part of an overarching 25-for-25 series on the rise of fast casual dining, Dave discusses the most influential burger moments in recent history, the celebrity butcher, and how we got to this point—the point in which burger spots rule. He then answers an Ask Dave and cooks up some homemade burgers. Learn more about LaFrieda: https://www.lafrieda.com/ Learn more about Shake Shack: https://shakeshack.com/ Learn more about Cafe Boulud: https://cafeboulud.com/nyc/ Learn more about JG Melon: https://jgmelon-nyc.com/ Learn more about PJ Clarke's: https://pjclarkes.com Learn more about Peter Luger: https://peterluger.com/ Learn more about Piccinini Bros: https://piccininibros.com/ Learn more about Creekstone Farms: https://creekstonefarms.com/ Learn more about Eleven Madison Park: https://www.elevenmadisonpark.com/ Learn more about Frenchette: https://www.frenchettenyc.com/ Learn more about Le Veau d'Or: https://www.lvdnyc.com/ Learn more about Balthazar: https://balthazarny.com/ Learn more about Minetta Tavern: https://www.minettatavernny.com/ Learn more about Louis' Lunch: https://louislunch.com/ Learn more about Fuku: https://eatfuku.com/ Learn more about Next Thing You Eat: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15191350/ Learn more about Blackbird: https://www.blackbird.xyz/ Learn more about Resy: resy.com Learn more about Tock: https://www.exploretock.com/ Learn more about OpenTable: https://www.opentable.com/ Learn more about Toast: https://pos.toasttab.com/ Learn more about Union Square Hospitality Group: https://www.ushg.com/ Learn more about Major Food Group: https://www.majorfood.com/ Learn more about Burgerville: https://www.burgerville.com/ Learn more about White Castle: https://www.whitecastle.com/ Learn more about White Manna: https://www.whitemanna.com/ Learn more about Red Hook Tavern: https://www.redhooktavern.com/ Learn more about King's Hawaiian: https://kingshawaiian.com/ Learn more about Impossible Foods: https://impossiblefoods.com/ Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or [email protected]. Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow. Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial. Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com. Join our community Discord on majordomo.com. Look for the black carton in the egg aisle. Host: Dave Chang Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey guys.
0:01.7	I just ate the burger.
0:03.5	Dave, you want to show everybody the burger you're eating?
0:07.8	You saw David with that burger.
0:10.3	Sorry, I didn't make as many.
0:11.9	A little bit of a hurry.
0:12.7	It got rehearsed for Diner Time Live with Joe Coy and Nikki Bella today.
0:16.2	But we're doing our 25 for 25.
0:19.4	And we did a little bit over the summer. We're going to take ideas that have really helped and shaped how we eat and dine in the world today.
0:26.6	The main sort of idea here is the rise of fast casual.
0:31.6	And that really sort of took off right around the financial crisis of 2008. But today, to lead up to that, we're going to
0:39.9	talk about the rise of the burger and all the things that needed to happen for that 2008
0:45.7	sort of boom to happen. So we're going to talk about Danielle Ballude's DB Bistria Modern.
0:51.2	We're going to talk a little bit about Shake Shack. But more specifically, we're going to talk about Pat LaFreda and how, you know, I sort of joke, it was like the NVIDIA, which who the fuck knows exactly what it does, but it seems like it's really important for AI. But the burger movement, particularly New York and that would spread all over the world, could not have happened without the rise of the celebrity butcher and sort of
1:11.7	the meat blends that they made so stay tuned we're going to talk about that and then i'm going to make
1:16.4	not a lot of kind of burgers i'm going to make one they're delicious so stay tuned this episode is
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