Hi, I'm Natalie Jill, fat loss expert turned lifestyle and high performance coach. Welcome to Listen

Up, the podcast. On this podcast, I do what I do best, taking complicated information that is

relevant to us now and breaking it down simply with actionable steps you can implement to level

up your life.

I also regularly interview some of the most inspiring and courageous men and women

on the planet who, at their worst, learned how to achieve success greater than anything

they ever dreamed possible, creating everything from nothing.

If you are new here, I encourage you to go back and listen from

episode one when this podcast was previously called Leveling Up for the full transformative experience.

Today on Listen Up, I've got my new friend Carrie Thomas. Thanks for being here, Carrie.

Thank you so much for having me. This is exciting. I'm so excited to dive into

this topic today because as a massive ADHD entrepreneur, that's been my thing forever,

I've had to really learn the world of decluttering and organizing. It does not come natural to me.

And when I learned about you and what you do, how you help people with all types of clutter, not just physical clutter, but mental clutter,

all the things. And you specialize in helping people with ADHD. I thought, I've got to have her on

and learn her tips and see how she even got into this. So thank you. Oh, you're welcome.

So take us back. Were you always an organized person? Let's start with that.

I was. Actually, I was just talking to my mom the other day. I'm actually at her house now visiting.

And I was saying, do you remember when I was young? And I took the dining room, the new China cabinet and made it a library. And so I've always been organized and wanting to systemize things. And my background

is in education. And even when I taught, I loved teaching, but I really loved organizing my classroom

and having color coordinated folders and all those fun things. So yes. That's interesting because you know, when I look at, first of all, what grade did you teach when you taught? What was the age? I taught middle school. I taught special education. So I had six, seventh, and eighth, but it was always middle school. So what I've always noticed about classrooms, and I'm generalizing here because I just have my own experience with my classroom or my daughter's classrooms. But to me, they never, they always look like a big clutter mess, like classrooms to me. And I always struggled with

that as a kid that I couldn't see millions of things around. It would confuse me. It would distract me.

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