This is Jocco podcast number 246 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink. Good evening, I go good evening. I was

doing what I was doing. I was

getting after it, working. It had been

five years since I had retired from the Navy.

And in that five years I had been working hard. And listen, I'm not the guy

that sends happy birthday texts or meet you for dinner on a Tuesday night.

That's not that. That's just not, I don't know. This is not really my personality.

I look, if you want dinner and you come to my house at any time, the grill is on, we'll cook

steaks, obviously. No factor. But when I'm in the zone, I start doing my mission. I get focused

on that. That's what I do. And I'm not saying that this is a good way to be. I actually don't

think it's a good way to be. I think I get a little target fixation in life. And I'm not really

great at maintaining contact with people. And the fact that I was in the teams my whole life

didn't really help because all my friends were team guys. And so they didn't need any kind of

consistent communication either. One guy that I went through buds with, went through basic

seal training with in my class, then I went to team one with them. And then we did three deployments

together, three platoon, workups, three deployments together. Then we went in a training cell together.

And this whole time we were roommates the entire time. And then I left for the East Coast.

And I didn't say one word to him for two years. Zero. And then I got back and we both ended up

a team seven and like nothing happened. Like high five and all good and we just picked up

a no factor. And that's just like I said, I know it's not great, but that's just the way my

personality is. And that being said, my friends also know that if they call me,

I'll answer the phone. And if they need something, I will make it happen. And I don't care if I

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