In a marriage, I think a strong-willed woman is great, mainly because my husband is married to one.

He is secure enough to handle it, too.

I think it takes security in a man to handle a strong-willed woman, and I think a strong-willed woman needs to know when she's being witchy,

and when she's being confident and intelligent, and being a helpmate at the same time.

I think it depends on the man. My husband, I don't think, thinks twice about it because I think

he's pretty confident. So I think that's their problem. And I think we need to stop caring

like what they think about it. I mean, my husband and I have our own business.

Nobody would say to him, oh, you're so strong willed to have your own business,

but yet they would say it to me.

Like, why?

I mean, this is an interesting conversation, but why?

I just do what I need to do to get through life to be successful in life.

I took a test one time at this place I worked in one of those personality type tests.

And but what they said, well, now we noticed that, you know, we asked you questions like if you're not,

if things aren't going according to your plan, the label they had for me there was dictatorial

steamroller which I thought well now that I think about it that's exactly

true I do turn into a dictatorial steamroller when I think my way is the

right way why can't the rest you people see it like this? I'm just going to go

smash on through whatever needs doing and I'm going to get it done. And you know what? Sometimes

my plan was not the right way to do it and then I have to live with the consequences of that.

Well, those are some strong-willed women. I'm wondering if we have any of those sitting around the table here. Linda, are you strong-willed? Absolutely not. You liar. I'll ask Jody what he thinks. Yeah. And I know we have another woman who's strong-willed because you've written a book about it. Cynthia Tobias. That's right yourself as strong will? Absolutely, proudly so. But strong will in the right way, which we'll talk about, I'm sure in a minute. All right, and you're so strong-willed that I just have to tell people, because I think this is so cool that you're a police officer. You were, you're not anymore. And you have to be strong willed to be a police officer, right?

Right. And I think you know this, especially Julie, but there's a big difference between a

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