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Bell babies, how are you guys?

Thanks for listening.

We got a great show for you today. Eugene Cordero is finally back.

But I want to talk to you guys about your sleep. Are you getting enough? Do you even know? Sleep is important, y'all.

We need it as much as we need air, food, and water, but there's a lot of myths and misunderstandings around it. Take it for me. I know.

You guys know Eugene and I have started a quest to learn and understand more about sleep.

We read all kinds of books. We studied up on it. We got a bunch of wearables. We experimented with

trying to track our sleep, get sleep data,

try to figure out, solve the mystery of it. But we can't. We don't know. We have some missing pieces.

Thank God we've got this Rise app now to fill in the gaps for us. We learned a lot from Rise.

Did you know that it's normal to feel groggy when you

wake up and sluggish in the afternoon? However, it is not normal to feel tired throughout the day.

That's an indication that you're carrying a sleep debt. And that's limiting your natural energy

peaks and making your dips less productive. Yeah, dudes, I'm here to tell you, you can become a morning person. And don't worry,

you don't have to stop using your phone before bed. You can still look for stuff to buy that you

don't need. Scroll around, get a little dopamine rush from making an order on some crap you don't

need. But it is exciting when that package shows up at your door.

Well, you don't have to stop it. You don't have to get a new mattress. You don't have to get

supplements. You don't have to get a weighted blanket. You don't have to have a little sleep

fairy, have a magical wheelbarrel that shovels magic sleep dust into your eyes to get tired. I thought that I needed

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